Daily Roundup 7/1 – Interview with Dana Bowling from the “Daily Dose with Dana” Podcast – Reality Steve

You are listening to the Daily Roundup here as part of the Reality. Steve Podcast, I’m your host reality. Steve, thank you all for tuning in on this Tuesday. We’ve got a good show for you. I have an interview coming up. With Donna Bowling, she of the Daily Dose of Donna that you can see on her YouTube channel and anywhere you listen to your podcasts.

She’d never been on the podcast before. Thought I would bring her on to talk a little Scott and Kelly Wolf divorce and a little Golden Bachelor as well. So that’s coming up momentarily. Isn’t a ton of news today to go over in Bachelor land, but there are two things I want to cover. Number one. This is just off of yesterday’s story that I told you on the podcast in regards to what happened on Friday after Peter Weber launched his new girlfriend Brook Sill, and just by doing a Google search of Brook Sill, who I didn’t know of before Friday night, I came across the fact that she used to date musician John Gurney.

John Gurney’s. Ex-girlfriend is also Shannon Ford, by the way. So he was on the Cavalier Show back in the day, very cavalier. I guess he appeared on that because he was dating Shannon at the time. And Shannon Ford is good friends with what’s her face. Kristen. So, anyway, after telling you that whole story about what happened on Friday, one hour, one hour after Peter went and hard launched Brooks Sill as his new girlfriend.

John Gurney posted on his Instagram story a song called Never Met Anyone like You by Ella Langley. And included the caption summing up my last relationship in three minutes. So if you looked at the lyrics of that song, I told you yesterday the lyrics expressively say one of the lyrics is one of the lines are, ’cause you said it was us till the end.

Then you went and hooked up with my friend and you blamed it on me. Left me crying in pieces. Damn, what a piece of shit. Whoa. So. I was pointing out was these are all facts. This wasn’t, Hey reality, Steve is running with some hearsay. No, it was all fact. It was out there. It’s public knowledge. John Gurney used to date Brook Sill.

Brook Sill launched a relationship on Friday with Pilot Pete John Gurney. An hour after that relationship posts that song to his Instagram story. You find out that John Gurney is also really good friends with Jason Tarik, I believe Jason Tarek’s rewired talent. Is represents him and they all hung out and John Gurney was at Coachella two months ago with Brooke and Peter was there that weekend.

So I don’t know in terms of details of what happened and when and how close John is, friends with Peter. This is John’s side of the story. All I was saying is it wasn’t coincidental. That John posted what he did one hour after Peter and Brooke launched their relationship. There’s no way that was just random hell, he even included the caption that summarizes my last relationship in three minutes.

So he was clearly addressing the fact that his ex-girlfriend had moved on and he quoted a song that had lyrics saying, you hooked up with my friend. Period. End of story. So I say all that to say this yesterday. I don’t know at what time John Gurney started following me on Instagram, so I don’t know what that means.

I don’t know if John Gurney and I are gonna become BFFs, but by all means, John, if you want to come on the podcast and talk about this, I, I, I, you have a, a platform I’ll let you, but I, I have no idea. I just wanted to point that out that John started following me yesterday. So somebody, ’cause he wasn’t following me before yesterday, so he had no reason to listen to my podcast.

Somebody obviously ran it back to him and told him what I said yesterday and then he started following me. So the other thing is, I, I know it’s very big in Bachelor Nation right now. Latia, no, sorry, not Latia, Zoe did a six minute TikTok just ripping into Grant. For the things that he has done post show for not protecting her grant came back yesterday with a six minute TikTok explaining himself.

I honestly, I’m over this. I’m over. I don’t, I’m just not gonna cover it. I’m not gonna give my opinion on it because frankly, I did not listen to what Zoe said, and I did not listen to what Grant said. You people have emailed me and have told me like a summary of it. But I just, I don’t wanna dive into it if I can’t talk to either of these people directly, which I can’t because show hates me.

I don’t get to talk to their contestants who are still under contract. I, I just, I don’t know. This seems like too much of he said, she said, and. Unless I could talk to both of them. I’m not gonna sit here and, and weigh in and be like, oh, I’m team Zoe, or, oh, I’m Team Grant. It’s just, I’m team. Nobody. I’m team.

I don’t care about this story. Unfortunately, there are plenty of other people in the bachelor world that will talk about this, and I would suggest, I don’t know if you, if you’re interested in this drama, I would. You know, first off, go listen to it yourself. Go listen to Zoe’s TikTok and go listen to Grant’s TikTok and, and I guess make your own conclusions, but I just don’t want to dive into this.

It’s just, I don’t know, it’s just not something I’m interested in. I, I don’t know. I honestly dunno how else to put it, to be honest with you. Anyway we’ve got about a 30, 35 minute interview with Donna Bowling. Yes. Her name is spelled DANA and. I wanna thank her for telling me it’s pronounced Donna, because I would’ve called her Dana.

I had no idea it was Donna. But she has a daily YouTube show Monday through Friday, and she also has that in audio form, so check it out. It’s called The Daily Dose of Donna. But yeah, I was a, oh, sorry, I didn’t have my phone on. I didn’t have my phone on vibrate. I usually do when I record my podcast.

Oh, well. All right. Here we go. Daily Dose of Donna with Donna Bowling. Alright, let’s bring her in. She hosts the Daily Dose of Donna Heard Monday through Friday on her YouTube channel and wherever you listen to your podcast, this is our first time appearing on the Reality Steve Podcast. It is Donna Bowling.

Donna, I. Thanks for coming on.

Hey, I’m so happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

No, thanks for accepting. And we’ve got, we’ve got some pop culture stuff that I wanted to jump into and you showed up on my Instagram search feed and I was like. I’ve seen her around, I’ve seen clips of her. I know you do a lot of the lively baldon case coverage.

Probably not gonna talk about that today only because after about the first week I dropped off because there were too many motions being filed and I was like, I can’t keep up with this. I, I don’t wanna do Yeah. Anymore. But something that I have talked about, I think every day since. It recently came about in the news was the Scott and Kelly Wolf divorce because when this first dropped, she was the first one to release something and she released this is, she releases this statement saying that her and Scott are getting divorced after 21 years.

And I thought there was something really interesting about somebody who was announcing a divorce after 21 years. The glowing description of her marriage of Scott, I was like. This isn’t usually what we see when someone says we’re getting divorced. She gave the basic, Hey, please respect our privacy and stuff like that.

But she was very, very glowing about Scott and I was like, this seems off. The next day Scott releases his statement and he keeps it about his generic as you can, made the tough decision to divorce my wife, which confirmed in my eyes, he ended it with her. And then last week happens where she completely crashes out on Instagram four days in a row with these inane ramblings on Instagram.

I just want to get your take on what you are seeing when you saw that play out. And then we find out at the end of last week, I think Wednesday or Thursday, Wednesday of last week a judge granted him a temporary restraining order and temporary custody of the children. Just gimme your whole take on how you see this thing right now.

So I am with you on all of it. Number one, you said four days. I think we’re going on maybe almost two weeks of. Rambling on internet. Yeah, it has not gone away. In fact, I was on a phone call with my girlfriend yesterday. She is I’m 44. I am a mom. I’ve been married now. I only bring this up because it’s relevant.

Yeah. Not just because I wanted to give you a biography, but you know, I’m married now almost 15 years and have two teenage almost sons. And I was talking to my girlfriend, who she’s divorced, but she also has teenage daughters. So we’re kind of like in that age range of Kelly.

Yeah,

and you know, she’s coming at it from a divorce place.

I’m coming at it from a married place and, but both moms and we were on the phone last night. Talking about Kelly for about an hour because we are flabbergasted over this experience. If you are watching Kelly and we can’t stop watching.

Yeah, I know He had stopped.

You can’t stop and it feels so bad. Yeah, but she keeps.

She, she kind of stopped saying this for, there was a couple days there where she was like, why are you guys looking? Like, stop, this is, this is private. But then she keeps posting, keeps posting, keeps posting. It’s like Justin Bieber going to Nobu saying like, paparazzi, stop taking pictures. And I’m like, but you’re at Nobu, you can’t, this is the most insane, and I hate to use the word insane because that just, that, that immediately sounds like she’s crazy, but it really is. When I say insane, like we have not seen a public kind of meltdown of celebrity divorce, I would say, in such a way in a long time. She went from being, and I’ll tell you you know, I, I’m from la born and raised.

I have so many. Mutual friends of Kelly and Scott Wolf, like 20. We have some in common, I’m sure, who know her and who know them as a couple who are floored by this ’cause. They knew how wonderful they were together, that they were happy, that they were lovely, and that she was completely. I don’t wanna use the word, but like normal, like just everything was fine.

So the days after she announced the divorce, which was on June 10th, I wanna say. Yeah, we’re recording on June 30th. So it’s been 20 days. She announces that she’s going to Sundance, this resort with her daughter, her young daughter. It was weird. She was like, had her car filled with all this stuff. It felt like she was living out of her car, which we find out she was.

Yeah. And then she announces that, you know, she has this public detaining 51 50, these cops on her Instagram live saying, your dad called us and they’re concerned for your life. The fact that that video is still 20 days later on her Instagram. Yeah, like it’s not like she has decided. The day after, like, wow, maybe I should delete that.

We’ve all posted and deleted later. But what’s really interesting to me is there’s this, it’s seemingly, I have a girlfriend who’s a therapist and none of us are her doctor, but my therapist girlfriend is watching too, like can’t stop. And she says, Donna, to me, she seems like she is. Struggling from like a bipolar situation.

There’s like some sort of medical situation. There’s, she’s not being medicated like something is happening because the way she’s posting the erratic posting and she is not in reality of some sort. Her kids are not with her. She is, her kids are taken away from her. She has a restraining order. She doesn’t have access to her children and she’s posting.

Herself drinking wine and talking about being with other men. And like I was talking to my friend, she was like, I’ve never seen a Hornier woman in my life. I mean, she’s posting all these men that she wants to bed every hour. Ta

ta tagging Brad Pitt, tagging Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, what do you doing? I’m so embarrassed.

And you know, it’s, it’s so bizarre because she does this and she says all these things and. Some of them are like, the more she tells me this, the, the less I believe her. How many times has she told us I’m fine. Everything’s great. Love my life, I’m sober. They tried to gimme medicine when I was in detained.

I didn’t take it. And it’s like, but everything else you’re posting makes it seem like you’re not great. The more you tell us you’re doing great, the more I know you’re not doing great. And come to find out now. She apparently left him six or not. She left. They have been separated for six months and she has still not gotten her own place.

It seems like she’s been living out of her car, living in friends’ houses, like you’re clearly not doing well. And then, you know, today when this airs is gonna be July 1st, I think today is the day where they go to see and state their case for permanent restraining order. I’m, I thought I saw July 1st in that story where it said he got a TRO and July 1st was their court date.

I gotta believe everything that she posted over the last two weeks has been screenshot by his lawyers, of course. And they’re going to use this against her, and I just don’t see how she wins anything in this case. Scott has posted, I think one thing since this all broke, and that was one shot of him and the kids at the airport going to Cape Cod for the weekend, and then Kelly lost it after that.

I think you’re so right about all of that. I think number one, no one really knows the timeline, and it’s really interesting because those, those people that were following her, so she, she says, I’m a mental health professional. I’m a mental health professional. I’m a life coach.

Life coach, which I don’t even know what in, what is a life coach.

Well, I come from the era of like these Instagram coaches, like I remember I’ve hired them. Right,

okay. I

remember hiring a life coach from Instagram. What’s

just outta curiosity, what’s the qualification for somebody to be a life coach? Is it schooling? Is it reading something online? Like what exactly is she?

I think you can probably just like hire another life coach on Instagram and get a life coach certificate from Instagram. Like,

I

mean, it’s really the worst MLM there is out there. Right. It’s like the. I mean, no offense. ’cause I think Mel Robbins can probably help people. But it’s like that. Mel Robbins.

Tony Robbins, like, you know, I mean, I’m sure they help people, but they’re a little bit illegitimate, I think. Okay. So there’s that. There’s, so she’s a life coach, which fine, I’m sure she can help people in conversation. But her whole thing is about living authentically. I live authentically. I’m very who, I’m, exactly who I am.

Well, for months and months and months, you were exactly who you were, but you weren’t because you were living out of a car living in basements and none of your followers knew that none you weren’t with your husband, even though you guys were posting Happy Birthday, happy Valentine’s Day to each other, which they were.

In February,

I father’s, there was a Father’s Day message in there. It was a

Father’s Day message. There’s so, there’s all this love, love, love, but they weren’t really poor. Scott. And I do feel bad for Scott because I’m sure he was holding it together while he was in la. It sounds like he was in LA and his brother had to hold down the fort because.

He wasn’t trusting his wife to watch with his, to watch his kids. And then there was all these 9 1 1 calls that have been released that the family has called 9 1 1. Apparently she’s gotten into it with a 16-year-old son and they have not felt safe with her at home. I mean, this is a big, big story, but I have never had to file a restraining order.

A friend of mine has not against an ex or a father of her chil of the children, but a against like kind of a stalker situation. A woman I. In order to get a restraining order. Granted, and I don’t know, Steve, if you’ve had to do it.

I haven’t. I’m sure you have. No, I haven’t. Was involved in a case recently, this whole Clayton Ecker thing, the former Bachelor.

Oh. Involved in that? I’ve learned a lot about restraining orders and to get a TRO, the burden of proof is very, very low. So it’s not surprising that Scott got this. Oh, it’s not hard to

do

No. Against

the mom of your children though.

Well for temporary. Now permanents gonna be different. And that’s what I guess they’re going to court for today.

’cause I thought I saw July 1st somewhere in one of those stories, so. Oh, okay. I think they file a temporary, it’s hard to get. No, the temporary is easy to get because the burden of proof is very low. But then once you have to present your case to make it permanent, then yes, for her kids to get taken away from her, probably gonna take a lot.

But here’s the thing, now that we know, because she’s been revealing it over her Instagram stories for the last three weeks. She doesn’t have any sort of set place of residence, what judge is gonna say? Oh, yes. Okay, Scott. You drop the kids off on Thursday and pick ’em up on Sunday. She doesn’t have a place.

So until she, she gets where that settled. Where

is she?

Yeah. Until she gets that settled, there’s no way she’s getting the kids right. Yeah.

She looks like she’s living, I mean. I live here in Los Angeles. The only place I can equate it to in my mind is like Topanga Canyon. It feels very like hippie dippy where she’s staying with, with friends that I’ve never like, I don’t follow her regularly, normally, so I’ve never seen them, but people that I know follow her actual friends of hers have reached out to me on my dms ’cause I’ve talked about her and have said they can’t get through it to her, meaning she blocks them, she doesn’t respond to them.

She doesn’t wanna listen. Yeah, I think that people sounds right in her state of mind are so either defensive or not open to hearing any sort of feedback. So she mentions yesterday that her dad and her brother visited. Is it true? I don’t know. She didn’t post anything with them, but she mentions that her dad and her brother visited her.

We remember that the day that she got that detained. They said, we spoke to your dad. Her dad is clearly worried about her because we know that we’ve put that, those pieces together. Her dad was visiting her. Maybe her dad was like, Kelly. I need you to come with me. I need you to put your phone down. You need to, you need to get your kids back.

Like what you’re doing is not gonna work. Dah, dah, dah. Maybe she fought to the nail and said no, and then she posts, you know that she’s sitting with incense and wine. By the way, you’re saying you’re sober. There’s alcohol in every single video you’re posting.

Yeah.

It’s

wine bottles everywhere. If you actually pause for pictures, they’re all over the place.

Every. Picture or video. There’s a hard seltzer or a wine glass or a bottle. And then she’s saying she’s sober in the same day.

Yeah. Yeah. And, and look, she maybe she’s only had a half a glass. Maybe she is sober. But it just, the problem is she’s lost all credibility at this point.

Yes.

With the crash out of so many Instagram posts, if it was a few here and there she went on that run.

When she got her phone back, you could tell which day she got her phone back from getting released from wherever she was detained. It was just a spree, and it was just like a stream of consciousness. I’m just gonna let every thought out in my head onto my Instagram story, and I said it at the time.

I’m like, someone needs to take her phone away from her. This isn’t going to help her. I, I don’t know how much of it can be used if Scott’s gonna use this against her. All I know is it’s not helping anybody form any sort of opinion, because I didn’t start following Kelly Wolf until the story broke that they were getting divorced, and she started posting and people were saying, have you seen what Kelly Wolf is posting?

So I have no idea when they were married in her 21 years, if she was a frequent Instagram story post. I have no idea.

Well, according to people that did follow her regularly, they told me, ’cause I also didn’t, okay, I, I, I maybe followed her, but I never saw her stuff, said she never posted this way. Like she always was a little woo woo because she wrote a book called Flow.

Yeah, I mean she definitely had a little bit of this like kind of vibe. I think she probably is into like eclectic things, but she’s not, the only way I can describe her Instagram stories, especially those first couple days when she got out of the hospital. Like remember her first post back was a picture of her hand at a bar.

Yeah,

there was a margarita. Yeah. That’s how you post your welcome back after your 51 50. I mean it. You can’t write this shit like that was the craziest thing.

Yeah. No, this is, this is a wild story and it’s really, like I said, just getting started. I believe today is where they go to court, and I think Scott has got everything in his back pocket.

Now, the people that you have talked to that know her, yes. And you said they were all surprised. The other thing that we haven’t even talked about in all of her crash out posts. Is her attack on Billy Bush? Who? Oh my gosh, that’s what I was

just about to say.

Billy Bush was one of the first ones to come out publicly and speak, and he is Scott’s best friend, like they are BFFs.

He knows them both well, he wasn’t lying about that. And his first statement was what she is accusing him of because she said in that Instagram story, when the phone was being, the Instagram live that we got when she was being detained, she said, Scott Wolf is abusing me and you are too. And Billy Bush came out immediately and said, this is absolutely not true.

Now it’s Scott’s best friend, so I don’t wanna say you take it with a grain of salt, but you probably lean him a little more towards what he said because he knows them. You could say, if you’re a fan of Kelly, if you’re team Kelly, you’d say like, well, of course he’s gonna say that he’s Scott’s best friend.

We don’t know, but. He does have some credibility because he does know both of them, and he says this is absolutely not true. Mm-hmm. Kelly’s getting help and then Kelly just goes on a rampage on Billy Bush saying, you never talked to me. You never called me. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Where am I?

I thought you were my friend. I, I would’ve done an interview with you, but now I’m gonna give it to People Magazine. She hasn’t done an interview with people that I’ve seen. So, so confused on the whole Billy Bush angle of all of this.

You know, I love Billy Bush. I actually really appreciate him and I’ve, I’ve been connected with him because we both covered a lot of the same stories at like Blake Lively and then Karen Reed, and so we’ve connected a bunch.

So I trust him. I actually do now, of course. Yeah. He’s not in closed doors. No one is behind closed doors. No one knows what really happens behind, you know, in a couple’s home. So. Whatever. But multiple people have reached out to me that know them, and I asked them, these are Kelly’s friends. Yeah. And I asked them, I was like, do you think that there’s truth to Scott Wolf being abusive and not one of them can even like imagine it again?

No one knows, but I really do believe that this is like a figment of, I hate to say it, her imagination being that this seems to be a little bit of a pattern here. Yeah. I do think that there’s an element of, and I’m not saying this lightly. I do think that there’s an element of like reality and then like Kelly’s reality and.

This is what I’m seeing just based on what she’s saying versus what was happening. Like the example, another example is there was a few days ago when Daily Mail came out with this, this exclusive, and somehow they got this video interview with her out at this bar when she was out in Park City. I think,

yeah, that’s where it lived and

I don’t.

Yeah, and she was, but she was at the montage. She was posting all about where she was staying at the Montage for like two straight days where she set up shop. She put up pictures like she was living there. And she told everyone that she was going to the Nona Saloon. I mean, if I live nearby, maybe I would go for an interview.

So someone in a daily mail went with a camera and a flat, a spotlight, you know, whatever, a light, and they filmed her just out at this bar, and she gave them the interview, like she didn’t even think twice about it. She starts interviewing with them and she’s telling them that she’s, sorry, hold on. I’m talking to my kids.

She says on this interview, and she’s like, yeah, hold on one second. I’m talking to my kids. Do you have kids? She starts kind of like questioning the interviewer. Now that same day. And of course, because now I am like a student of Kelly Wolf. I feel like I’m at Kelly Wolf University. I know every day what she’s doing.

That same day she was complaining all day long that she hasn’t been able to talk to her kids. Right? She has no contact with her kids for days and days and days. So like what’s the reality?

Well, the other thing is the timeline, which was last week. She men, she mentions in one of her posts, have not spoken to my kids.

This is awful. And then. Little time goes by, I wanna say it was last Sunday night, could have been Monday, either Sunday or Monday. She says, oh my God, just spoke to my kids for three hours. Mm-hmm. Everything’s great, all this. Mm-hmm. And then one day later, maybe two days later. Scott files for the temporary restraining order.

Mm-hmm. So it’s almost like whatever happened in that phone call did not go nearly as well as Kelly thought It did. And that was what forced Scott to be like, no, she’s not getting, I don’t feel safe. Yeah. I don’t feel safe. Yeah. And I’ll put kids in with her.

As a mom myself, like I feel awful for the whole situation.

Number one, I feel devastated. Well, really, when I was talking to another friend of mine who is in mental health, she said if, if she is in fact struggling with her mental health, she may not even be. Cognizant of the whole situation, of the gravity, of the fact that she’s like, not with her kids and the, the, the massive let out of like, or the fallout of what she’s doing right now.

Because if she would be aware of the fallout, maybe she would stop posting about alcohol and like men right now.

Yeah. You

know, she would put her phone down. I feel so bad for those kids and for Scott. Like what is happening? Can you imagine your whole life, your mother, everything’s just like, like spiraling in two weeks?

Yeah. I mean, it’s just been, it’s been a really weird, bizarre journey that we’ve been on with her and she just lets us know every thought in her head and you know, like I said, it’s just. She kind of loses credibility when she says what she does, and then we see some of the actions that have happened. You know, everything’s great and I’m, I’m sober.

I’m fine. Don’t you know, I remember one of the first things she wrote was, don’t you dare post you know anything about my kids. Take any pictures of my kids and post them in your stories. Kelly. You have a public Instagram account and your kids are all over it, all they’re doing is taking something that says, we can’t take your kids.

I didn’t do it, but I know other outlets have done it. It’s like, I know you don’t have a private Instagram and it’s not like you don’t post your kids. You posted them all the time on your Instagram to They’re everywhere. Yeah. To tell people on a public story, on a public Instagram account, don’t use my kids in any of your stories.

I, she just, she has lost seemingly some sense of reality of what’s going on right now. For sure. So sad. It’ll be fascinating to see what happens from here.