(RNS) — Because this is the season of confession, let me start with a confession.
It is something that I have never shared with anyone before — so I know that I can trust you all to keep my secret.
For a number of years, I suffered from anxiety when I crossed bridges. I do not know what it was about bridges. I do not know if it was the height or the potential shakiness in the wind.
The Throgs Neck Bridge that connects the Bronx and Queens, New York? Yikes. The George Washington Bridge that connects Manhattan and New Jersey? Double yikes. The causeways in the Florida Keys, with water on both sides and a blue sky above — I was a mess.
At a certain point, I abandoned that anxiety and embraced the presence of bridges in my life.
Mostly, religious bridges. As in, bridges between faithful Jews and faithful Christians; faithful Jews and faithful Muslims; and certainly (check out the recent podcast with Rabbi Yitz Greenberg) faithful Jews and other faithful Jews, who are faithful about different things, who believe different things, at different times, in different contexts but who are still part of the same Jewish people.
This brings me to two of my favorite people — Abigail Pogrebin and Rabbi Dov Linzer — who have just written a new book, “It Takes Two To Torah: An Orthodox Rabbi and Reform Journalist Discuss and Debate Their Way Through the Five Books of Moses,” with a foreword by Mayim Bialik. This is a book about each Torah portion, as read through their lenses, and is a series of conversations and intellectual wrestling matches.
Listen to the accompanying podcast, and you will discover that they first met through “The Conversation,” which was, for several years, an annual gathering sponsored by The Jewish Week and facilitated by Gary Rosenblatt. “The Conversation” succeeded in gathering Jews together from all walks of Jewish life — from all denominations and non-denominations, professionals, lay people and totally uninvolved people — for the sole purpose of sharing ideas, visions and dreams.
I can attest to the power of “The Conversation.” I formed some very close friendships as a result of it, and in many ways, Wisdom Without Walls is an expansion of it — and I am not surprised that Abby and Dov found each other there.
And it was, to quote the final moments of “Casablanca,” “the beginning of a beautiful friendship.” A deep friendship rooted in mutual exploration, Torah, learning and honesty. Abigail is a media personality, a liberal Jewish activist and immediate past president of Manhattan’s Central Synagogue. She’s also the author of several books that map her discovery of Jewish content. Dov is a modern Orthodox rabbi and the Rosh Yeshiva of Yeshivat Chovevei Torah, a modern Orthodox seminary.
You would imagine that there is a disparity in their learning, and you would be right.
And yet, it never shows. Dov, for his part, is always open-minded and open-hearted and never didactic. Abigail never holds back — from the wisdom that she has accumulated and from asking the right questions.
These are two fellow travelers on a sacred journey.
One example. When Abigail and Dov discuss Beshalach, the Torah portion in Exodus when the Israelites cross the parted waters of the Sea of Reeds, the seas come back together, the Egyptians drown and the Israelites break into song.
Abigail puts it this way:
Wow, talk about dancing on someone’s grave. You’re right. It’s hard to square the mass drowning with the mirth of the dancing and singing. I feel chastened, disillusioned.
Then, Dov teaches:
There is a famous midrash. The angels wanted to rejoice and sing when the Egyptians were drowning. And God said, “My handiwork is drowning in the sea, and you think you can burst into song?”
I want to acknowledge the point you’re making about the feelings of those who have been oppressed. The midrash says God is scolding the angels for singing. They are outsiders to this whole drama. They shouldn’t be singing when people, even oppressors, are dying.
But the midrash doesn’t have a problem with the Israelites singing. They were the ones who were oppressed. Their joy for being avenged is understandable.
Could this be about Gaza?
You will need to listen to the podcast to find out — and to figure out whether we need to hear the Torah again, in a different key and tonal quality, after Oct. 7.
A final piece. In our conversation on the podcast, I pointed out that Mayim Bialik wrote the foreword to the book. Mayim is a major Jewish voice in the entertainment industry — and she is that rarity — an Orthodox Jew. The book also has an endorsement from Julianna Margulies — also, visibly Jewish.
I asked Abigail, point blank: Why is it so rare for Hollywood Jewish A-listers — with the exception of Jerry Seinfeld and several others — to embrace and fight for Jewish causes, and Israel, even and especially after Oct. 7?
This was Abigail’s gut-wrenching reply: “That has been one of the great disappointments of the past year.”
I share her disappointment.
But, more importantly, I share her joy, a joy that she shares with Rabbi Dov Linzer, in that which must truly be our source of joy, healing and resilience — the living words of Torah, which two good friends have made even more real, and even more living.
And, even more loving.
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